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Hi Sasha

Hi, there's a long discussion of A/A tests: https://linen.growthbook.io/t/13142527/hi-growthbook-team-having-the-same-issue-as-i-described-here#76332a3f-3c02-4ee5-b01a-b3de79fdc260 I gave answers as

helpful-application-7107

in that thread. Please take a look and let me know if you have follow-up questions.

Thanks for the link to the discussion. I understand the general idea that A/A tests can become significant. It still feels "off" though. I ran another A/A test for the same scenario ( A/A, just with console.log() ) and it shows the same results. I'll let it running, to see what happens. But -20% and 99.7% significance to lose feels quite strong.

Hmm, having two with this strong of results and trending in the same direction does lead me to be a little suspicious as well. Let me check in with the team that owns the visual editor.

It had multi user exposure, so I removed it

Did you choose to re-randomize? New phases can suffer from carry-over bias if you don't re-randomize.

Sorry, what do you mean by re-randomize?

Hmm, maybe it isn't an option in the visual editor at the moment. Did you start the new phase from clicking the three dots in the far top right and editing phases in the Experiment page?

Yes, I deleted the phase 1 which reset the experiment to "draft"

I see.

Sure, I'll set that up.

Any update here?

Yes, it looks much better now. My take away is to create new experiments and not delete phases and start over with existing experiments. Thanks for the help, Luke!

Yeah, so a new phase does not re-randomize unless you're explicitly choose to do so (only available in some flows) so it will be as "unlucky" as the previous draw for A/A experiments, and in real experiments it can cause carry-over bias.

Ah, I wonder if that's why I am seeing weird values for experiments? I have an existing A/B experiment, and I modified it to use a namespace, and created an A/A experiment in the other half of the namespace. About half of the users are in the A/B experiment and they ALL have the associated feature 'true'. The other half are in the A/A experiment and their associated feature is 'false'.

I have an existing A/B experiment, and I modified it to use a namespace

This is an unsafe operation and it can be difficult to make guarantees about how the user experience will change over time. We should make it clear in the app that there isn't a safe way to do this without creating new features/re-randomizing if we don't already.