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rapid-greece-48554

10/16/2023, 8:57 AM
Good morning all good? As I said before, I'm trying to implement GB in my company, but I'm not a developer and I have a lot of doubts about using the tool. I haven't been able to simulate a test yet. I have some questions: 1. Can I simulate a test with the Demo Project? 2. Can I only use GTM to carry out tests? 3. Do I need to link with GA4 or can I leave this step only when I want more specific metrics? 4. Only using GTM: can I do design tests? Forgive me for the repeated questions, I already asked if it was possible to test using just GTM, and they sent me the link to the documentation. I've read it countless times and I'm still confused, that's why I'm asking, otherwise I wouldn't be bothering you. Forgive me. I'm not sure if only with the configuration suggested at https://docs.growthbook.io/guide/google-tag-manager-and-growthbook I can run the tests. Even the devs on the team are in doubt, because it seems like we need more code. Can anyone who implemented it in GTM chat with me?
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fresh-football-47124

10/16/2023, 9:12 AM
Hi Tatiana: 1. The sample data in the app lets you play around with how GrowthBook works, but doesn’t connect to your actual application - so it depends on what you mean by ‘test’ 2. You can test entirely with GTM and GA4 with BigQuery, though it does take some setup and a little bit of technical knowledge. 3. You need something for your experiment exposure events and metric data - GrowthBook doesn’t ingest this data itself, but ties into some other data source, like GA4 -> BigQuery 4. You can use the visual editor to design tests as a non technical person, as long as what you’re trying to test is relatively simple
How far did you get following that guide?
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rapid-greece-48554

10/16/2023, 9:17 AM
We created GTM, now the developer is unsure about the codes that we should implement on the website. We are following the page above, but we still don't know if only GTM will be necessary, if we will need more data, we are all confused.
For this reason I would like to talk to someone who used GTM, because I don't understand it and the developer is confused, I can't touch the GB without configuring the SDK, the dev is in doubt about the SDK. It's really difficult, but we received a suggestion about the tool and we urgently need to test it and show the company that it is good, but we are unable to follow the guide
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fresh-football-47124

10/16/2023, 9:21 AM
if you have a developer who can add the SDK to the site, that is preferred over using GTM
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rapid-greece-48554

10/16/2023, 9:28 AM
We follow https://docs.growthbook.io/guide/google-tag-manager-and-growthbook. My question is: is it necessary to just create the GTM, configure the SDK and start testing? Is it also necessary to implement GA4? If I don't use GA4, can I still do tests? Is there any other information besides what is on the GTM page that I need to follow? I'm using WordPress. And Graham, I tried to do tests using Demo and I couldn't.
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nice-library-4391

10/23/2023, 1:17 PM
We have the JS SDK on our frontend, which sends an event to GTM in the trackingCallback. We then use GA4 to track the experiments, which was set up following this guide (this also involves linking GA4 to the BigQuery project used for Growthbook): https://docs.growthbook.io/guide/GA4-google-analytics
keep in mind that the data from GA4 is exported to BigQuery in some interval by default, but can be changed to streaming, so data is exported instantly
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fresh-football-47124

10/25/2023, 5:18 AM
Hi Christian - sorry, didn’t see this in the old thread - were you able to get it working?
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nice-library-4391

10/25/2023, 7:41 AM
@fresh-football-47124 no help needed, just wanted to share how I set it up to help @rapid-greece-48554
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